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Barry C
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posted 05-18-2009 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not a Survivor fan, but I heard on a local radio station that "Coach" refused a polygraph by one of the other survivors, and then he took his own - by Grogan. What I found interesting is that the radio host laughed when she said it because, as she said, there's plenty of info out there to show that Grogan is a fraud.

That's good news. We're as far from the left coast as one could get, and people here are learning that Grogan is a phony examiner.

I'm not sure what they heard or how, but I sent them a link to Ralph's site on Grogan. I doubt I'll hear anything, but I figured I try to get the info out so people can make up their own minds.

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Taylor
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posted 05-18-2009 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
nuked

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Barry C
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posted 05-18-2009 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
The questions are out there. The radio station mentioned them. At least one RQ was a good CQ, so the test was bad. Surprise!

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ebvan
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posted 05-19-2009 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
Based on several blogs it would appear that Survivor fans have Mr. Grogans number.

Some even linked to his complaints history with the better business bureau and a place called ripoffreport.com

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Fed Employee
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posted 05-27-2009 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fed Employee   Click Here to Email Fed Employee     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to hear about the Grogan settlement. Many times I used the truthaboutgrogan.org website as a reference point to potential clients who threw his name in my direction.

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Taylor
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posted 05-28-2009 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
oops

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globalpolygraph
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posted 05-28-2009 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for globalpolygraph   Click Here to Email globalpolygraph     Edit/Delete Message
This settlement is very disheartening. Many of my potential customers have used the TAG web site to avoid being scammed. Quite a large number were not so lucky and only found the site after the fact. There must be someone out there (or some organization) willing to carry the torch.

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Michael Martin
Global Polygraph Network
www.polytest.org

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Bill2E
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posted 05-28-2009 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill2E     Edit/Delete Message
I'm trying to find a way to post GM's zip file on a website without becoming liable for GM's post on his own web site, any ideas?

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Barry C
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posted 05-28-2009 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Shouldn't the now down web pages be cached on sites such as Wayback? How long do those remain up, and is it possible to submit them to Google et al for "Grogan" searches?

If you ask, GM might be willing to add a page to his site. It could be a news story of the site, the suit and the settlement.

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Taylor
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posted 05-28-2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
GM has it in the lawsuit page

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detector
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posted 05-28-2009 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for detector   Click Here to Email detector     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys,

Although I can't talk about the details until the court has received the final release officially closing the case, I will say...you are on the right track....just move quickly.

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Barry C
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posted 05-28-2009 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, who's going to move on it? I'm under siege at the moment and probably for the foreseeable future. There is a way to keep this useful, informative and newsworthy info around for almost an eternity if done right.

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Ted Todd
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posted 05-29-2009 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd     Edit/Delete Message

Mr. Martin,

With all due respect, I must comment on your statement:

"There must be someone out there (or some organization) willing to carry the torch."

My question to you is this: What have you done about it? I suspect the answer will be "nothing" which is exactly why this problem continues to exist. If I am incorrect here, please let us know.

Ted

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ebvan
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posted 05-30-2009 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
Mr. Martin

Ted has a point.
Based on my personal email and telephone calls, GPN is frequently confused with Mr. Grogan's Organization/s. I think he may have blurred the difference in some of his advertising.

Several examiners I know have spent some time informing your potential customers that you are not Grogan. It seems to me that you have a lot to gain by making sure that people don't think you are him.

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Ex scientia veritas

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Barry C
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posted 06-01-2009 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I just heard from the man in charge of CID (at work) that Grogan called to say he was going to sue us for some reason. The story I'm hearing can't be quite right, but that's the word.

He's upset, so I'm told, because I have supposedly posted 2300 bad things about him on some website, which the boss thought was the PEOA. I'm guessing he means here at PP (but 2300 negative posts?).

I'm not sure what the supposed basis for the suit is since any negative opinions I've express were said on this private site, and there's no way I could say anything here that would make you folks think any less of Grogan - I don't think anyhow.

I'm not sure what my employer's connection would be either. My comments here are my own. I don't represent them or any of the organizations with which I'm affiliated. My guess is that he's feeling things out looking for deep pockets, but the City I work for (even if he could make a connection) is self-insured, which means they can't afford to settle as the lesson has been that it sets bad precedent. Instead, trials are cheaper in the long run.

Anyhow, is he trying to bully anybody else?

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Barry C
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posted 06-02-2009 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Nobody else has heard anything similar?

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ebvan
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posted 06-02-2009 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing here. I kinda hope he takes a shot at somebody who can't be forced into a settlement by an insurance company that cares more about dollars and cents than right and wrong.

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Barry C
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posted 06-02-2009 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
It's my understanding that's the position the insurance company is taking in the Trimarco case, which is scheduled for trial in August.

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